Question About Conditions and Hexes - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · May 08, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12

In the Prohpecies Campaign, do monsters generally inflict more hexes or conditions? And around how many times more? Thanks in advance.

mistokibbles · May 08, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

If you're trying to go through a specific area or mission, you might want to read the wiki page on it.
www.gw.gamewikis.org and www.wiki.guildwars.com

Sir Tidus · May 08, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Nah, I'm not talking about specific areas, just the whole campaign in general. Does anyone know?

arsie · May 08, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28

To answer your question directly: You will probably suffer more conditions than you would hexes. Not just in Prophesy but in the game in general.

A caveat to the answer: The hexes you will encounter will tend to have a more debilitating effect on your party than conditions. But that is highly arguable. I don't remember being overly concerned with hexes in Prophesies.

To answer what you are not asking: I think your team build should have several condition removal, but you can afford 1 hex removal most of the time. Change the proportion of that to suit individual zones.

Icy The Mage · May 08, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistokibbles

If you're trying to go through a specific area or mission, you might want to read the wiki page on it.
www.gw.gamewikis.org and www.wiki.guildwars.com

Actually, that first link isn't technically correct anymore

It should be: http://guildwars.wikia.com/

snaek · May 08, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

well 9 out of 10 classes can inflict conditions (monk cant)
and only 6 of 10 classes can inflict hexes

but is there a real point to y ur aksin this question?

r u wonderin if ur monkies should bring more condition removal or more hex removal?

The Red Messenger · May 08, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

In prophecies, i would definately say hexes are prevalent.

most of them arent too bad...the ones i remember being most annoying were deep freeze, spirit shackles, and feinthartedness.

Axel Zinfandel · May 08, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

In prophecies, i would definately say hexes are prevalent.

most of them arent too bad...the ones i remember being most annoying were deep freeze, spirit shackles, and feinthartedness.

QFT

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**Marty Silverblade** · May 08, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by snaek

well 9 out of 10 classes can inflict conditions (monk cant)

Wrong, Monks have [[Ray of Judgment].

Anyway in regards to the OP, it's probably about the same, but it's hard to tell because I find that it's easier to remove conditions than hexes. [[Extinguish] and [[Pure Was Li Ming] are both party-wide condition removals, with Li Ming basically removing every condition on your party, but afaik there aren't any useful party-wide hex removals.

EDIT: Forgot [[Hexbreaker Aria], which owns on a DSlasher, of course providing your non-spellcasting team members have a spell, but if not it'll give your Monks something to do.

Bront · May 08, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

It's about the same, some areas are more condition heavy, and others are more hex heavy.

As for removal, condition removal is usually a little easier, but conditions tend to be a bit more problematic in general (there are many fairly ignorable hexes, but not as many conditions.

Antheus · May 08, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Number doesn't matter. You can cripple, bleed, poison and blind the caster, and they'll be happily nuking away. But daze them, and they're done. You can also put spirit shackles on them, empathy, spirit of failure, .... and they won't care. But single unremoved Backfire will kill them if not careful.

Same goes for melee. Condition and hex them all you want, and they might not care. But put a SS on a Frenzy warrior, and they can wipe your party.

It's not quantity, it's quality that matters.

In Jungle, there's plenty of hexes, as well as poison. Undead spam blind and weakness. In Shiverpeaks, there's plenty of everything, including Spiteful Spirit bosses. Desert has trappers and Virulence (I think), as well as Plague Tough on giants, so conditions galore.

But apart from a few zones, anti-melee conditions and degen are predominant in Prophecies. As far as casters go, Ring of Fire has some annoying hexes, and sometimes there's Backfire.

HawkofStorms · May 08, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

In American collegiate football, do teams run the ball more often or pass?
The correct answer can never be given, as it vastly depends on the teams playing.

Your question is way to broad to have any sort of useful "correct" answer.

snaek · May 08, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Wrong, Monks have [[Ray of Judgment].

unless u have some kind of hack to play as a minion...
i really dun think that counts

MagmaRed · May 08, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

In American collegiate football, do teams run the ball more often or pass?
The correct answer can never be given, as it vastly depends on the teams playing.

Your question is way to broad to have any sort of useful "correct" answer.

QFT

If you are looking for a build to use on hero Monks for the whole game, forget it. Some areas need no condition removal at all - NONE. Some need TONS of condition removal. You must adapt as you move. Be prepared for both, unless you know the area you will be working doesn't need it.

If you want to know something specific, then refine your question. This question has no answer.

Sir Tidus · May 09, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by arsie

To answer what you are not asking: I think your team build should have several condition removal, but you can afford 1 hex removal most of the time. Change the proportion of that to suit individual zones.

My monk hero has mend ailment and cure hex. On my mesmer hero, I can either bring a smite condition or smite hex, which should I bring? And please don't attack me for using smiting prayers on a mesmer (I don't have a lot of skills unlocked yet so I have to use what I have). Thanks.

Sir Tidus · May 09, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

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Originally Posted by Antheus

Undead spam blind and weakness.

Where? Which ones? I used wiki and couldn't find any undead that can inflict blind or weakness.

RPGmaniac · May 09, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

Where? Which ones? I used wiki and couldn't find any undead that can inflict blind or weakness.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skeleton_Sorcerer

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Smoke_Phantom

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Carven_Effigy

last one is from NF

MagmaRed · May 09, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

My monk hero has mend ailment and cure hex. On my mesmer hero, I can either bring a smite condition or smite hex, which should I bring? And please don't attack me for using smiting prayers on a mesmer (I don't have a lot of skills unlocked yet so I have to use what I have). Thanks.

If you use the Mesmer for support, I'd suggest hex removal. Lots and lots of options, and surely you have at least 1 of them unlocked, or can unlock it easily.

[Shatter Hex][Inspired Hex] all from Prophecies, which is all you have except GW:EN iirc.

[Revealed Hex][Expel Hexes][Hex Eater Signet] from Factions.

[Hex Eater Vortex] from Nightfall.

miskav · May 09, 2008, 09:48 AM // 09:48

Hex Eater Vortex = Fun :P

May 08, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Question About Conditions and Hexes In the Prohpecies Campaign, do monsters generally inflict more hexes or conditions? And around how many times more? Thanks in advance. Last edited by Sir Tidus; May 08, 2008 at 12:16 AM // 00:16..

May 08, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#2
mistokibbles Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2008 Profession: N/A	If you're trying to go through a specific area or mission, you might want to read the wiki page on it. www.gw.gamewikis.org and www.wiki.guildwars.com

May 08, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09	#3
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Nah, I'm not talking about specific areas, just the whole campaign in general. Does anyone know?

May 08, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28	#4
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	To answer your question directly: You will probably suffer more conditions than you would hexes. Not just in Prophesy but in the game in general. A caveat to the answer: The hexes you will encounter will tend to have a more debilitating effect on your party than conditions. But that is highly arguable. I don't remember being overly concerned with hexes in Prophesies. To answer what you are not asking: I think your team build should have several condition removal, but you can afford 1 hex removal most of the time. Change the proportion of that to suit individual zones.

May 08, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20	#6
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	well 9 out of 10 classes can inflict conditions (monk cant) and only 6 of 10 classes can inflict hexes but is there a real point to y ur aksin this question? r u wonderin if ur monkies should bring more condition removal or more hex removal?

May 08, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33	#7
The Red Messenger Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: America	In prophecies, i would definately say hexes are prevalent. most of them arent too bad...the ones i remember being most annoying were deep freeze, spirit shackles, and feinthartedness.

May 08, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38	#10
Bront Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: Honored Order of Light Profession: W/Me	It's about the same, some areas are more condition heavy, and others are more hex heavy. As for removal, condition removal is usually a little easier, but conditions tend to be a bit more problematic in general (there are many fairly ignorable hexes, but not as many conditions.

May 08, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38	#11
Antheus Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	Number doesn't matter. You can cripple, bleed, poison and blind the caster, and they'll be happily nuking away. But daze them, and they're done. You can also put spirit shackles on them, empathy, spirit of failure, .... and they won't care. But single unremoved Backfire will kill them if not careful. Same goes for melee. Condition and hex them all you want, and they might not care. But put a SS on a Frenzy warrior, and they can wipe your party. It's not quantity, it's quality that matters. In Jungle, there's plenty of hexes, as well as poison. Undead spam blind and weakness. In Shiverpeaks, there's plenty of everything, including Spiteful Spirit bosses. Desert has trappers and Virulence (I think), as well as Plague Tough on giants, so conditions galore. But apart from a few zones, anti-melee conditions and degen are predominant in Prophecies. As far as casters go, Ring of Fire has some annoying hexes, and sometimes there's Backfire.

May 08, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#12
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	In American collegiate football, do teams run the ball more often or pass? The correct answer can never be given, as it vastly depends on the teams playing. Your question is way to broad to have any sort of useful "correct" answer.

May 09, 2008, 09:48 AM // 09:48	#19
miskav Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: None Profession: Mo/	Hex Eater Vortex = Fun :P